Discussione:
Did Yes give birth to Iron Maiden?
(troppo vecchio per rispondere)
z***@yahoo.com
2006-11-19 22:05:57 UTC
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"Harris has been influenced by other bass players such as Chris Squire
of Yes, John Deacon of Queen, Mike Rutherford of Genesis, Geddy Lee of
Rush, Andy Fraser of Free and John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers, Martin
Turner of Wishbone Ash, Geezer Butler of Black Sabbath, and John
Entwistle of The Who. One of his all-time favourite bass players was
Pete Way from UFO, who was said to influence Harris' playing style
greatly"

First on the list is Chris Squire. Not to mention that there are very
few rock bands in which the bassist plays LEAD bass. For example - Yes,
Who, Rush and Iron Maiden.

"Steve Harris is often considered among the best and most influential
heavy metal bassists. He frequently writes bass lines with a 'gallop',
a pattern consisting of three rapid notes - one eighth and two
sixteenths - which he plays with his first two fingers on his right
hand. Before playing, Harris often greases his fingers, to make such
'gallops' easier to play, as shown on the bonus DVD for the A Matter of
Life and Death album. Besides this he is very adventurous on the bass
and and plays intricate accompaniment in many of Maiden's songs. He
also uses power chords, which are relatively unheard of on bass, on
several songs. Harris has also stated that he never uses a pick and
that he never warms up before a show."

"Squire's bass playing is noted for being aggressive, dynamic, and
melodic. Squire's main instrument is a Rickenbacker 4001, which he has
owned and played since 1965; it was the fourth Rickenbacker 4001 ever
imported into Britain from the United States. This instrument, with its
warmth and distortion, is a significant part of Squire's unique sound
which is achieved by a technique known as 'bi-amping'. By splitting the
stereo signal from his bass (which divided the signal from the pickups
into dual high and low frequency outputs) and then sending the low
frequency output to a conventional bass amplifier and the
high-frequency output to a separate lead guitar amplifier, Squire
produced a tonal 'sandwich' that added a growling, overdriven edge to
the sound while retaining the Rickenbacker's powerful bass response.
Squire (who is self-taught) was also one of the first rock bass players
to successfully adapt electronic guitar effects such as tremolo,
phasing and the wah-wah pedal to the instrument."

So Chris Squire added electronic effects to his bass. Steve Harris...
not to be undone added synth to his bass too.

"In the album Somewhere in Time, Harris made his first experimentation
with synthesised sounds, playing the bass synth (later on the Seventh
Son of a Seventh Son album referred to as 'string synth'). He has also
done so on subsequent albums, although it has not featured as much as
it did on Somewhere in Time."

So did one of the most high regarded progressive rock band give birth
to one of the most highly regard heavy metal band of all time?

"Although Iron Maiden was a metal band influenced by Deep Purple, Led
Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, UFO, Yes, Wishbone Ash, Apocalypse, Queen and
Judas Priest, the earlier music had undoubted punk overtones."
Niccolo' Carli
2006-11-19 22:39:31 UTC
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Post by z***@yahoo.com
"Although Iron Maiden was a metal band influenced by Deep Purple, Led
Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, UFO, Yes, Wishbone Ash, Apocalypse, Queen and
Judas Priest, the earlier music had undoubted punk overtones."
Queen, negli Iron Maiden? In particolare il basso barattolante di
Deacon? Mi pare una forzatura clamorosa.
Niccolo'.
Silver Drake
2006-11-20 07:27:08 UTC
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Post by z***@yahoo.com
"Although Iron Maiden was a metal band influenced by Deep Purple, Led
Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, UFO, Yes, Wishbone Ash, Apocalypse, Queen and
Judas Priest, the earlier music had undoubted punk overtones."
Queen, negli Iron Maiden? In particolare il basso barattolante di
Deacon? Mi pare una forzatura clamorosa.
Anche perché aver cercato di dare un suono "troppo Queen" a Phantom of
the Opera (a causa di qualche sovraincisione della voce) fu uno dei motivi
per cui Dennis Stratton venne licenziato.

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Niccolo' Carli
2006-11-20 08:31:04 UTC
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Anche perché aver cercato di dare un suono "troppo Queen" a Phantom of
the Opera (a causa di qualche sovraincisione della voce) fu uno dei motivi
per cui Dennis Stratton venne licenziato.
Meno male che non c'e' riuscito ed e' pure stato licenziato, allora! :)
Niccolo'.
Silver Drake
2006-11-20 09:04:28 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
Anche perché aver cercato di dare un suono "troppo Queen" a Phantom of
the Opera (a causa di qualche sovraincisione della voce) fu uno dei motivi
per cui Dennis Stratton venne licenziato.
Meno male che non c'e' riuscito ed e' pure stato licenziato, allora! :)
Lui dice che voleva solo "aggiungere e non togliere" al suono, ma
effettivamente se penso alla parte centrale di Phantom con cori tipo
Prophet's Song mi preoccupo molto... Il fatto è che avendo qualche anno
in più ed essendo più esperto pensava di poter avere un ruolo un po'
troppo "largo", mi sa. Non si può dire che la storia gli abbia dato
ragione.

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The Sentinel
2006-11-20 19:21:57 UTC
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Lui dice che voleva solo "aggiungere e non togliere" al suono, ma
effettivamente se penso alla parte centrale di Phantom con cori tipo
Prophet's Song mi preoccupo molto...
Sono nettamente diversi, tutt'altra atmosfera e anche costruzione.

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The Sentinel
2006-11-20 19:21:28 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
Anche perché aver cercato di dare un suono "troppo Queen" a Phantom of
the Opera (a causa di qualche sovraincisione della voce) fu uno dei motivi
per cui Dennis Stratton venne licenziato.
Che notoriamente suonava il basso, e soprattutto e' nei credit di quel
pezzo...sisi.

Ma te le studi la notte queste uscite-cazzata che non c'entrano mai un cazzo
col discorso, o ti vengono davvero fuori spontaneamente?

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Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-20 18:32:39 UTC
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Niccolo' Carli
2006-11-20 18:39:15 UTC
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Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of
clankete-clankete-clang-clang-bzzzzzclank!
Però difficilmente c'entra con Deacon.
Intendevo "barattolante" in un altro senso, nel senso di senza tiro, un
po' cosi', di castagnaccio. I colpi di Harris sono barattoli? Ok, ma
pieni di tondini di ghisa! :)
Niccolo'.
The Sentinel
2006-11-20 19:20:45 UTC
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Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of
Sisi, certo...certo, ora dormi pero'...
Post by Niccolo' Carli
clankete-clankete-clang-clang-bzzzzzclank!
si e' rotto anche l'ultimo ingranaggio sano del tuo cervello?

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Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-20 19:22:42 UTC
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Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of
clankete-clankete-clang-clang-bzzzzzclank!
Però difficilmente c'entra con Deacon.
Intendevo "barattolante" in un altro senso, nel senso di senza tiro, un
po' cosi', di castagnaccio. I colpi di Harris sono barattoli? Ok, ma
pieni di tondini di ghisa! :)
Allora dovevi dire "legnoso".
"Barattolante" a me fa proprio pensare al suono di Harris.
Anche perchè i barattoli di solito sono di latta, non di castagnaccio.

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The Sentinel
2006-11-20 19:21:16 UTC
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Queen, negli Iron Maiden? In particolare il basso barattolante di Deacon?
Mi pare una forzatura clamorosa.
Non mi stupisco piu' di nulla io ormai...anzi, sara' mica il "mitico" MM?
Quello che defini' i Queen come un misto di Black Sabbath e Deep Purple di
"In Rock"? :-DDD

O magari giec, con il suo "gli Iron al 90% sono i Thin Lizzy clonati"...

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Niccolo' Carli
2006-11-19 22:41:01 UTC
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Post by z***@yahoo.com
"Although Iron Maiden was a metal band influenced by Deep Purple, Led
Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, UFO, Yes, Wishbone Ash, Apocalypse, Queen and
Judas Priest, the earlier music had undoubted punk overtones."
Aggiungo: i "punk overtones" sono semplicemente una produzione da
tremila lire. Come disse Goblin, con quei suoni pure gli Yes erano punk.
Niccolo'.
The Sentinel
2006-11-20 19:22:06 UTC
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Aggiungo: i "punk overtones" sono semplicemente una produzione da tremila
lire. Come disse Goblin, con quei suoni pure gli Yes erano punk.
Che c'entrano i suoni piu' o meno fatti ben con lo stile?

I suoni, per quanto possano essere opposti (un disco totalmente schifoso e
uno allo stato dell'arte per dire) non cambiano certo mai da soli lo stile.

Non fare come quei metallini che non capiscono un cazzo e definiscono per
esempio il grind come "punk solo con piu' distorsione e piu' veloce" o cose
simili :-)

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Niccolo' Carli
2006-11-20 19:25:04 UTC
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Che c'entrano i suoni piu' o meno fatti ben con lo stile?
I suoni, per quanto possano essere opposti (un disco totalmente schifoso e
uno allo stato dell'arte per dire) non cambiano certo mai da soli lo stile.
Non fare come quei metallini che non capiscono un cazzo e definiscono per
esempio il grind come "punk solo con piu' distorsione e piu' veloce" o cose
simili :-)
Era un'esagerazione per indicare le famose travi nell'occhio.
Niccolo'.
Pikkio
2006-11-19 23:05:10 UTC
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Post by z***@yahoo.com
"Harris has been influenced by other bass players such as Chris Squire
of Yes, John Deacon of Queen, Mike Rutherford of Genesis, Geddy Lee of
Rush, Andy Fraser of Free and John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers, Martin
Turner of Wishbone Ash, Geezer Butler of Black Sabbath, and John
Entwistle of The Who.
Mah, più che da tanti di quelli ci vedo Phil Lynott.. sicuramente più di
Deacon, che non c'entra una sega nulla.

Pikkio
Niccolo' Carli
2006-11-19 23:06:33 UTC
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Mah, più che da tanti di quelli ci vedo Phil Lynott.. sicuramente più di
Deacon, che non c'entra una sega nulla.
Lui su tutti, infatti, poi ci aggiungerei Squire, Jones, Lee e Way.
Niccolo'.
Silver Drake
2006-11-20 07:29:30 UTC
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"Although Iron Maiden was a metal band influenced by Deep Purple, Led
Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, UFO, Yes, Wishbone Ash, Apocalypse, Queen and
Judas Priest, the earlier music had undoubted punk overtones."
Di punk avevano solo qualcosa nel look di Paul Di'Anno. Chris Squire
invece è effettivamente e "ufficialmente" tra le più grandi influenze di
Steve. Ci vedo pochino di Led Zeppelin e Black Sabbath (per quel che li
conosco, che non è tanto, a dire il vero), almeno nei primi dischi.

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Niccolo' Carli
2006-11-20 08:07:48 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
Di punk avevano solo qualcosa nel look di Paul Di'Anno.
Ma se si conciava come Rob Halford?!?
Post by Silver Drake
Ci vedo pochino di Led Zeppelin e Black Sabbath (per quel che li
conosco, che non è tanto, a dire il vero), almeno nei primi dischi.
Non c'e' una pippa nera, infatti. Si puo' sentire una certa
anticipazione ritmica del maidenismo in "Achilles last stand" degli
Zeppelin. Mentre su Thin Lizzy, Judas, Deep Purple, Rush per es. credo
si sia tutti d'accordo.
Niccolo'.
Silver Drake
2006-11-20 08:15:06 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
Di punk avevano solo qualcosa nel look di Paul Di'Anno.
Ma se si conciava come Rob Halford?!?
A sentire la band, nel periodo pre-esordio era più punkoso, forse si
riferiscono al fatto che era l'unico a tenere i capelli corti. Diceva
Steve che appena Paul si accorse che gli altri detestavano il punk si
diede un look più punk (non troppo, immagino, nei primi anni avevano il
licenziamento facile, anche se coi cantanti avevano più pazienza), poi
quando vide che uno stile da anni '70 gliene dava evidentemente di più
(dopo l'uscita di Stratton, immagino) iniziò coi camicioni (c'è una foto
bellissima di lui con un camicione da Duran Duran e i capelli che sembrano
usciti da un video dei Bon Jovi :D). In realtà c'era comunque poca
"sostanza" in quel senso, solo aspetto.


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Niccolo' Carli
2006-11-20 08:25:37 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
A sentire la band, nel periodo pre-esordio era più punkoso, forse si
riferiscono al fatto che era l'unico a tenere i capelli corti.
Ah, ma io mi riferivo a foto del periodo '80-'81. Spesso e volentieri
era concio come Rob.
Post by Silver Drake
In realtà c'era comunque poca
"sostanza" in quel senso, solo aspetto.
Ma certo. L'apparenza e' quel che conta.
Niccolo'.
The Sentinel
2006-11-20 19:22:32 UTC
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Ma se si conciava come Rob Halford?!?
Un pochino piu' sobrio, meno borchie diciamo (e meno "equivoco" anche, come
stile e taglio dei vari capi tipo canottierine, bretelline etc.), ma in
effetti di punk non capisco cosa avesse, era di solito in classicissimi
chiodo, pantaloni in pelle neri o aderenti secondo la moda del tempo e in
linea coi compagni, braccialettini borchiati ai polsi e via dicendo...
Post by Niccolo' Carli
Non c'e' una pippa nera, infatti.
beh qualcosina, qualche modo di costruire un fraseggio o assolo qua e la'
puo' ricordare alla lontana qualcosa dei pezzi piu' "duri" e "epici" dei Led
o quelli piu' maestosi e intricati dei Sabbath, ma sono al massimo passaggi
di durata sempre limitata, e cmq personalizzati come tutte le altre
influenze.
Insomma non vedo perche' dire proprio 0 di queste quando pur piccolissime ci
sono sparse qua e la', e invece sovrastimare sempre al massimo (fino ad
arrivare alle cazzatone di uno come giec) quelle dei vari Lizzy o Rush che
ci sono ma non sono certo cosi' totalizzanti ne' immediate ne' tantomeno ai
limiti del plagio come tanti "sordi" o in malafede vorrebbero spesso
sostenere.

La verita' e' che hanno preso piccolissime parti da un numero invece molto
alto di grandi gruppi precedenti a loro, ma proprio perche' sono tanti
piccolissimi pezzettini sparpagliati tra vari gruppi/stili/suoni diversi, e
inoltre perche' avevano un talento incredibile nel ripersonalizzare tutto a
modo loro (unico), alla fine risulta tutto solo Iron al 100%, non e' piu'
riconoscibile in pratica un cazzo, solo frammenti brevissimi qua e la' a dir
tanto...
Post by Niccolo' Carli
Si puo' sentire una certa
anticipazione ritmica del maidenismo in "Achilles last stand" degli
Zeppelin.
si, in quella e forse anche qualche altra...
Post by Niccolo' Carli
Mentre su Thin Lizzy, Judas, Deep Purple, Rush per es. credo
si sia tutti d'accordo.
si, d'accordo se si mette come ho detto io appena sopra, senno' no :-)

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The Sentinel
2006-11-20 19:22:16 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
di Led Zeppelin e Black Sabbath (per quel che li
conosco, che non è tanto, a dire il vero),
Stai scherzando vero? E che aspetti? I Black Sabbath sono la base
imprescindibile di tutto quello di cui si puo' parlare qui, e anche dei LZ
almeno qualche disco tra gli storici primi 4 va sentito...fallo, invece di
stare a sparare cazzate a caso qui sopra.

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ManningFan
2006-11-20 14:40:09 UTC
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Harris has long acknowledged his roots, and anyone who has ever heard a
Maiden album can hear Squire's influence. Harris is always out front
in the live show when most bass players stand back with the drummer.
In fact, I have long contended that Iron Maiden's first record was the
start of the Prog-Metal genre, long before bands like Dream Theater and
Fates Warning came into play.
Post by z***@yahoo.com
"Harris has been influenced by other bass players such as Chris Squire
of Yes, John Deacon of Queen, Mike Rutherford of Genesis, Geddy Lee of
Rush, Andy Fraser of Free and John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers, Martin
Turner of Wishbone Ash, Geezer Butler of Black Sabbath, and John
Entwistle of The Who. One of his all-time favourite bass players was
Pete Way from UFO, who was said to influence Harris' playing style
greatly"
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-20 15:01:15 UTC
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Post by ManningFan
Harris has long acknowledged his roots, and anyone who has ever heard a
Maiden album can hear Squire's influence.
I recall Harris citing Geddy Lee as a prominent influence in some
interview.
Post by ManningFan
Harris is always out front
in the live show when most bass players stand back with the drummer.
In fact, I have long contended that Iron Maiden's first record was the
start of the Prog-Metal genre, long before bands like Dream Theater and
Fates Warning came into play.
Oh, well, I have to agree.
Songs like Transilvania, or Mariner are definitely prog.

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ZepFloYes
2006-11-20 19:55:50 UTC
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Post by ManningFan
Harris has long acknowledged his roots, and anyone who has ever heard a
Maiden album can hear Squire's influence. Harris is always out front
in the live show when most bass players stand back with the drummer.
very good point
Post by ManningFan
In fact, I have long contended that Iron Maiden's first record was the
start of the Prog-Metal genre,
I havent heard the first two albums entirely... time for me to check
them out. But yes, Iron Maiden have traces of prog metal in most of
their albums during Dickinson era.
Post by ManningFan
long before bands like Dream Theater and
Fates Warning came into play.
Post by z***@yahoo.com
"Harris has been influenced by other bass players such as Chris Squire
of Yes, John Deacon of Queen, Mike Rutherford of Genesis, Geddy Lee of
Rush, Andy Fraser of Free and John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers, Martin
Turner of Wishbone Ash, Geezer Butler of Black Sabbath, and John
Entwistle of The Who. One of his all-time favourite bass players was
Pete Way from UFO, who was said to influence Harris' playing style
greatly"
Bawscratcher
2006-11-20 15:09:24 UTC
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Post by z***@yahoo.com
"Harris has been influenced by other bass players such as Chris Squire
of Yes, John Deacon of Queen, Mike Rutherford of Genesis, Geddy Lee of
Rush, Andy Fraser of Free and John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers, Martin
Turner of Wishbone Ash, Geezer Butler of Black Sabbath, and John
Entwistle of The Who. One of his all-time favourite bass players was
Pete Way from UFO, who was said to influence Harris' playing style
greatly"
First on the list is Chris Squire. Not to mention that there are very
few rock bands in which the bassist plays LEAD bass. For example - Yes,
Who, Rush and Iron Maiden.
"Steve Harris is often considered among the best and most influential
heavy metal bassists. He frequently writes bass lines with a 'gallop',
a pattern consisting of three rapid notes - one eighth and two
sixteenths - which he plays with his first two fingers on his right
hand. Before playing, Harris often greases his fingers, to make such
'gallops' easier to play, as shown on the bonus DVD for the A Matter of
Life and Death album. Besides this he is very adventurous on the bass
and and plays intricate accompaniment in many of Maiden's songs. He
also uses power chords, which are relatively unheard of on bass, on
several songs. Harris has also stated that he never uses a pick and
that he never warms up before a show."
Maiden virtually invented prog metal with Phantom Of The Opera on their
first album. And to date they have never bettered it.
ManningFan
2006-11-20 16:44:19 UTC
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I have to disagree with that, but of course music's appeal is in the
eye of the beholder. I think Back In The Village and Alexander The
Great are 2 of their best, and unfortunately for me they're 2 songs
they've NEVER played live. Phantom is great, as is Murders In The Rue
Morgue, although I always preferred Dickinson's voice to DiAnno's.
That's probably why I'm parial to Dickinson-era songs.
Post by Bawscratcher
Maiden virtually invented prog metal with Phantom Of The Opera on their
first album. And to date they have never bettered it.
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-20 18:30:37 UTC
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Post by ManningFan
I have to disagree with that, but of course music's appeal is in the
eye of the beholder. I think Back In The Village
It stinks. No, really. :-)
Post by ManningFan
and Alexander The
Great are 2 of their best, and unfortunately for me they're 2 songs
they've NEVER played live.
Excuse me, I don't quite get it. Where does, in this specific case, the
link between playing a song live and its "progness-factor" lie?

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ManningFan
2006-11-20 19:02:45 UTC
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I wasn't speaking of "progness", I was lamenting that there are no live
versions of my 2 favorite songs.

Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of
Post by Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
Excuse me, I don't quite get it. Where does, in this specific case, the
link between playing a song live and its "progness-factor" lie?
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-20 19:21:08 UTC
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Post by ManningFan
I wasn't speaking of "progness", I was lamenting that there are no live
versions of my 2 favorite songs.
It could be worse.
You could be a rabid Marillion fan still waiting to hear a live
performance of Just for the Record - or Jigsaw, for that matter :-)

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The Sentinel
2006-11-20 19:30:05 UTC
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Post by ManningFan
I wasn't speaking of "progness", I was lamenting that there are no live
versions of my 2 favorite songs.
Take my advice: leave him alone, he is a stupid troll.

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The Sentinel
2006-11-20 19:23:30 UTC
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Post by ManningFan
I have to disagree with that,
You are a wise man...what he said only can be true in the same sense of
"Venon invented black metal", if you know what i mean, because since 1992
label "prog metal" has very different meaning...
Post by ManningFan
I think Back In The Village and Alexander The
Great are 2 of their best,
i agree regard (o "for"? O altro? Boh....chissene...) the second one, but
for the first...i'm sorry but: ROTFL.

ps: X i "professori" di inglese: me ne fotto se ci sono degli errori, si
capisce di sicuro quello che dicevo e questo a me basta.

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Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-21 10:49:00 UTC
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Post by ManningFan
I have to disagree with that,
You are a wise man...what he said only can be true in the same sense of
"Venon invented black metal", if you know what i mean, because since 1992
label "prog metal" has very different meaning...
Post by ManningFan
I think Back In The Village and Alexander The
Great are 2 of their best,
i agree regard (o "for"? O altro? Boh....chissene...)
Did you mean "retard"?

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Bawscratcher
2006-11-21 11:35:30 UTC
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Post by Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
Post by The Sentinel
Post by ManningFan
I have to disagree with that,
You are a wise man...what he said only can be true in the same sense of
"Venon invented black metal", if you know what i mean, because since 1992
label "prog metal" has very different meaning...
Post by ManningFan
I think Back In The Village and Alexander The
Great are 2 of their best,
i agree regard (o "for"? O altro? Boh....chissene...)
Did you mean "retard"?
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Remember Tomorrow, Strange World.
The Sentinel
2006-11-21 19:46:03 UTC
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Remember Tomorrow, Strange World.
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Bawscratcher
2006-11-22 15:10:48 UTC
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Remember Tomorrow, Strange World.
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Pikkio
2006-11-22 15:33:42 UTC
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Remember Tomorrow, Strange World.
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For a Sentinel you're not very sentient.
LOL
That is my new sign. T.U.

Pikkio
The Sentinel
2006-11-22 20:05:03 UTC
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Post by Bawscratcher
For a Sentinel you're not very sentient.
Explain.

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Alessio "The Sentinel"
AJasira
2006-11-22 21:49:15 UTC
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Post by The Sentinel
Post by Bawscratcher
For a Sentinel you're not very sentient.
Explain.
Sentient is as sentient does.


Alan
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-22 21:50:53 UTC
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Post by AJasira
Post by The Sentinel
Post by Bawscratcher
For a Sentinel you're not very sentient.
Explain.
Sentient is as sentient does.
PANGALCTIC ROTFLBLASTER

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Io.
BVZM
2006-11-22 21:56:55 UTC
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Post by Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
PANGALCTIC ROTFLBLASTER
Zaphod! Where have you been all this time?
;)
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BVZM
NP -
http://spazlib.blogspot.com/
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-23 06:29:27 UTC
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Post by BVZM
Post by Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
PANGALCTIC ROTFLBLASTER
Zaphod! Where have you been all this time?
There's no Zaphod.
There's only Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destroyer.
I am the Keymaster. Are you the Gatekeeper?

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Io.
Daniele Purrone
2006-11-23 07:43:15 UTC
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Post by Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
There's no Zaphod.
There's only Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destroyer.
I am the Keymaster. Are you the Gatekeeper?
Gozer the Gozarian? Good evening. As a duly-designated representative
of the City, County and State of New York, I order you to cease any and
all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place of origin
or to the next convenient parallel dimension.

Daniele
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-23 10:05:50 UTC
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Post by Niccolo' Carli
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of
Post by Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
There's no Zaphod.
There's only Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destroyer.
I am the Keymaster. Are you the Gatekeeper?
Gozer the Gozarian? Good evening. As a duly-designated representative
of the City, County and State of New York, I order you to cease any and
all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place of origin
or to the next convenient parallel dimension.
Are you a dog?

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Io.
Daniele Purrone
2006-11-26 11:25:29 UTC
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Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of
Post by Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
Are you a dog?
Yes, I'm your little doggy! And I'm a rodent, too!!!

Daniele
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my website: www.purrone.net
"We are the ones who will never be broken, we are the ones who survive!
This is the sound that brings us together, you are the one by our side!
And through it all, the spirit's alive!" (Dropkick Murphys)
Speedwagon
2006-11-26 13:10:33 UTC
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Post by Daniele Purrone
Yes, I'm your little doggy! And I'm a rodent, too!!!
ROTFL
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Speedwagon
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-26 13:31:50 UTC
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Post by Niccolo' Carli
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of
Post by Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
Are you a dog?
Yes, I'm your little doggy! And I'm a rodent, too!!!
Then... GNAAAAAW!!!

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Io.

The Sentinel
2006-11-22 23:08:35 UTC
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Post by AJasira
Sentient is as sentient does.
Explain.

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Alessio "The Sentinel"
Bawscratcher
2006-11-24 10:09:02 UTC
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Post by The Sentinel
Post by AJasira
Sentient is as sentient does.
Explain.
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Alessio "The Sentinel"
Every time you ask me to explain, further strengthens my original comment.
The Sentinel
2006-11-24 14:14:21 UTC
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Post by Bawscratcher
Every time you ask me to explain, further strengthens my original comment.
But maybe you miss a thing: a don't give a fuck of what you think or about
your comments.

ps: learn to quote like a human being, and not like a goat.

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Alessio "The Sentinel"
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-24 14:15:48 UTC
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Post by The Sentinel
Post by Bawscratcher
Every time you ask me to explain, further strengthens my original comment.
But maybe you miss a thing: a don't give a fuck of what you think or about
your comments.
ps: learn to quote like a human being, and not like a goat.
...and always eat your greens.

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Io.
Bawscratcher
2006-11-24 14:45:06 UTC
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Post by The Sentinel
Post by Bawscratcher
Every time you ask me to explain, further strengthens my original comment.
But maybe you miss a thing: a don't give a fuck of what you think or about
your comments.
ps: learn to quote like a human being, and not like a goat.
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Alessio "The Sentinel"
That really hurts. Say hello to Moonwatcher for me.
The Sentinel
2006-11-24 17:41:10 UTC
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Post by Bawscratcher
That really hurts. Say hello to Moonwatcher for me.
Learn to quote.

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Alessio "The Sentinel"
Eejit
2006-11-24 20:14:31 UTC
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Post by The Sentinel
Post by Bawscratcher
That really hurts. Say hello to Moonwatcher for me.
Learn to quote.
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Alessio "The Sentinel"
Why quote? I'd rather be original.
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-24 20:16:07 UTC
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Post by Eejit
Post by The Sentinel
Post by Bawscratcher
That really hurts. Say hello to Moonwatcher for me.
Learn to quote.
Why quote? I'd rather be original.
"I hate misquotations", Ralph Waldo Emerson.
Well, *maybe*.

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Io.
The Sentinel
2006-11-25 09:50:59 UTC
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Post by Eejit
Why quote?
Because you are in a newsgroup...
Post by Eejit
I'd rather be original.
LOL...

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Alessio "The Sentinel"
AJasira
2006-11-24 16:57:11 UTC
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Post by The Sentinel
Post by Bawscratcher
Every time you ask me to explain, further strengthens my original comment.
But maybe you miss a thing: a don't give a fuck of what you think or about
your comments.
ps: learn to quote like a human being, and not like a goat.
O.K., here's the deal: you get our human being, and we get your goat.
Fair enough?


Alan
The Sentinel
2006-11-24 17:25:11 UTC
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Post by AJasira
O.K., here's the deal: you get our human being, and we get your goat.
Fair enough?
Ehmm...it's not _me_ who's unable to quote like a human being.

_You_ usually quote like a goat.

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Alessio "The Sentinel"
AJasira
2006-11-24 22:31:22 UTC
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Post by The Sentinel
Post by AJasira
O.K., here's the deal: you get our human being, and we get your goat.
Fair enough?
Ehmm...it's not _me_ who's unable to quote like a human being.
_You_ usually quote like a goat.
I am not an animal! I am a human being! I am a man!


Alan
The Sentinel
2006-11-25 09:52:33 UTC
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Post by AJasira
I am not an animal! I am a human being! I am a man!
LOL...relax...relax...

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Alessio "The Sentinel"
Bawscratcher
2006-11-25 11:07:27 UTC
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Post by AJasira
I am not an animal! I am a human being! I am a man!
Would you like a cup of tea? The lord is my shepherd blah blah blah......
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-25 11:11:08 UTC
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Post by Bawscratcher
Post by AJasira
I am not an animal! I am a human being! I am a man!
Would you like a cup of tea? The lord is my shepherd blah blah blah......
...I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent Waters by.
With bright knives he releaseth my soul.
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places.
He converteth me to lamb cutlets,
For lo, he hath great power, and great hunger.

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Io.
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-25 11:12:17 UTC
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Bawscratcher
2006-11-25 11:13:54 UTC
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Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of
Post by Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
Post by Bawscratcher
Post by AJasira
I am not an animal! I am a human being! I am a man!
Would you like a cup of tea? The lord is my shepherd blah blah blah......
...I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent Waters by.
With bright knives he releaseth my soul.
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places.
He converteth me to lamb cutlets,
For lo, he hath great power, and great hunger.
Revelations chapter 13 part 18.
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-24 18:37:38 UTC
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Post by AJasira
Post by The Sentinel
Post by Bawscratcher
Every time you ask me to explain, further strengthens my original comment.
But maybe you miss a thing: a don't give a fuck of what you think or about
your comments.
ps: learn to quote like a human being, and not like a goat.
O.K., here's the deal: you get our human being, and we get your goat.
Fair enough?
Sounds like you are plain exploiting his retardness.
Bad, bad guy.

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Io.
AJasira
2006-11-24 22:32:47 UTC
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Post by Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
Post by AJasira
Post by The Sentinel
Post by Bawscratcher
Every time you ask me to explain, further strengthens my original comment.
But maybe you miss a thing: a don't give a fuck of what you think or about
your comments.
ps: learn to quote like a human being, and not like a goat.
O.K., here's the deal: you get our human being, and we get your goat.
Fair enough?
Sounds like you are plain exploiting his retardness.
Bad, bad guy.
Explain.


Alan
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-25 10:00:05 UTC
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Post by Niccolo' Carli
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of
Post by Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
Post by AJasira
Post by The Sentinel
ps: learn to quote like a human being, and not like a goat.
O.K., here's the deal: you get our human being, and we get your goat.
Fair enough?
Sounds like you are plain exploiting his retardness.
Bad, bad guy.
Explain.
Explain is as explain doe... ehr, chalk up another mark for
repetitiveness.

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Io.
Pikkio
2006-11-23 17:17:50 UTC
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Post by AJasira
Post by The Sentinel
Post by Bawscratcher
For a Sentinel you're not very sentient.
Explain.
Sentient is as sentient does.
LOL

Pikkio
The Sentinel
2006-11-20 19:21:11 UTC
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Post by z***@yahoo.com
the earlier music had undoubted punk overtones."
Andava proprio messa la solita cazzata in fondo?

E poi non si capisce chi e' che parla, di chi sono le parti virgolettate e
in generale anche il resto.

Cmq la domanda in oggetto si presterebbe al classico giochino dei malintesi
continui tipo quelli che girarono tempo fa su Bush ahahahahah....

"Did Yes give birth etc.?

"Yes?"

"Yes."

"No."

"Yes." And so on...:-D

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Alessio "The Sentinel"
Uot Ai Cal The Virtual Odisei Trillogi, Cosmic Love Over De Border Of Speis en Taim, No?
2006-11-20 19:25:03 UTC
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