Discussione:
Nius sui Dream Theater
(troppo vecchio per rispondere)
Niccolo' Carli
2007-04-04 08:26:11 UTC
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La roba che segue me l'ha mandata un amico, io la rigiro qui:

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FIRST INSIGHT INTO THE NEW DREAM THEATER ALBUM!:
One of the companies I work closely with is re-issue label Rock Candy
Records. The label is run by the legendary journalist and A&R duo of
Derek Oliver & Dante Bonutto, who are also now working in conjunction
with Roadrunner Records to bring new releases from classic bands to
the market place.
Their first signing is Dream Theater, as announced a month or so ago.
Of course the guys are very familiar with the band, having signed them
to Elektra all those years ago.
Dream Theater have just turned in their new album Systematic Chaos to
their label, and Derek Oliver was kind enough to forward me his
thoughts on the album after living with it for a while and gave me the
ok to run this as your exclusive first look into the album from
someone who has a long and lasting passion for the band.

Says Derek:
"Systematic Chaos is pretty full-on. You'll all be very surprised.
It's undoubtedly the best record that they've recorded in many years -
very accessible, very heavy and very melodic. They've managed to
combine a sense of the past with the future and, unlike Rush, haven't
dumped their glorious past in favour of annoying skinny tie
affectations or garage rock pretence.
There are two absolutely killer tracks,

Constant Motion and The Dark Eternal Night, the former is like
Metallica with keyboards and the latter showcases the most intense and
heavy musicianship that they've ever recorded - think Pantera jamming
with Iron Maiden. Those tracks will be regarded as master classes in
progressive metal for years to come. And they both boast lashings of
melody.

The most accessible track is titled Forsaken, a blindingly obvious
radio song that mixes contemporary modern rock ala Evanescence with
the old school power balladry of Queensryche's Silent Lucidity whilst
still packing a progressive rock punch. Do I smell a potential radio
smash? Quite possibly.
Surprise contenders for classic status include Repentance, a brooding
10 minute creepy crawler that seeps its way into one's inner psyche
from the first few seconds of playback. The impact of this track is
enhanced by an abundance of unexpected spoken word contributions from
a number of well known musicians. I won't spoil it by revealing
exactly who they are as its a lot of fun trying to decipher for
yourself. Musically think Pink Floyd duetting with Metallica on a
decidedly trippy space rock epic.
The other major surprise is Prophet's Of War a magnetic and compelling
six minute romp that appears to be a combination of electro pop and
classic arena metal and it works brilliantly. Imagine walking into a
Berlin discotechque at 2 in the morning with 2,000 nutters jumping up
and down to a wild electro mash-up of the Prodigy, Queen, Robbie
Williams, Metallica and Ramstein whilst Dita Von Teese dances in a
cage.
Trad DT faire is offered up with The Ministry Of Lost Souls. Initially
a piano driven ballad which builds into a colossal prog rock hoedown
allowing Jordan Rudess to utilise every keyboard that he's acquired
through the ages amongst a cacophony of wild jamming. Once the battle
has been won, its all back to the main theme for a piping hot cup of
cocoa and bed.
The 25 minute epic In The Presence Of Enemies is indeed a pleasure to
experience. Split into two parts, which bookend the album, the vibe
here is dark and distant. The song is driven by a particularly
impressive bass riff and a full, open chorus with evil lyrics
delivered convincingly by a more assured and focussed James LaBrie.
Then, in the blink of an eye, it all kicks off as Portnoy jumps in
with double kick drums thumping at an alarming speed and its heads
down for the final push with swords, guitars, knives and keyboards re-
enacting the Charge Of The Light Brigade.
Man of the match? Impossible to say as all of them are at the top of
their game on this one. Portnoy? Well, he's just being Portnoy -
crucially the most accomplished drummer of modern times.
Petrucci? He's off his head on virtually every track delivering the
heaviest riffs this side of Black Sabbath and the fastest most precise
plank spanking I've ever heard.
Myung? The guys doesn't have much to say for himself in interviews but
his playing on this record speaks a thousand words.
Rudess? Possibly the bastard child of Keith Emerson and Rachmaninov.
His playing is historic and, understandably, quite perplexing.
LaBrie? I have great pleasure in announcing that he, out of them all,
has risen most magnificently to the challenge. Its clear that he's
taking this particular moment in the bands career to up his game
considerably, approaching each track with an intelligence that belies
his previous output. By adapting his delivery to suit the mood of each
song this fine fellow has breathed new life into an old frame. A great
and significant accomplishment.
I came away from this album thinking that - and I'm not taking a pot
shot here - if Iron Maiden and Metallica were currently writing and
performing to this level of excellence then the world of rock would
indeed be a far better place."
====================================================

Niccolo'.
Gackeen
2007-04-04 08:32:34 UTC
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Post by Niccolo' Carli
It's undoubtedly the best record that they've recorded in many years -
Speriamo bene.
Silver Drake
2007-04-04 08:37:28 UTC
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Dai, te la sei inventata tu :D
Battute a parte questa mi sembra una cartella marketing più che una
"dichiarazione spontanea", e in questo non ci sarebbe niente di male se
solo lo ammettessero. Per il resto non è che ci veda, da come ne parla,
chissà quali novità a livello di stile (il che non è necessariamente un
male).

See you,
Silver Drake
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http://www.myspace.com/rh666
Any metal? Every metal!
Niccolo' Carli
2007-04-04 08:47:14 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
Dai, te la sei inventata tu :D
Seee, e stavo a perdere tempo a scrivere quella roba! Non so l'amico
in questione da chi l'abbia avuta, pero' intanto la risparo qui.
Post by Silver Drake
Battute a parte questa mi sembra una cartella marketing più che una
"dichiarazione spontanea", e in questo non ci sarebbe niente di male se
solo lo ammettessero.
Ci sta che fra poco compaia sui vari siti, boh.
Post by Silver Drake
Per il resto non è che ci veda, da come ne parla,
chissà quali novità a livello di stile (il che non è necessariamente un
male).
La rosicata nei confronti dei Rush e' spassosa, comunque.
Niccolo'.
Silver Drake
2007-04-04 09:54:02 UTC
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Ed ecco la copertina:

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Non male, a parte il fatto che le formiche mi fanno schifo.

See you,
Silver Drake
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RADIO HELL - HELL FORCE ONE
http://www.myspace.com/rh666
Any metal? Every metal!
Carlo
2007-04-04 11:45:20 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
http://www.mendolaart.com/webout/63/2373-main.jpg
Non male, a parte il fatto che le formiche mi fanno schifo.
La copertina è interesante...anche le formiche. :-)


Carlo
antonio scanu
2007-04-04 12:46:07 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
http://www.mendolaart.com/webout/63/2373-main.jpg
Non male, a parte il fatto che le formiche mi fanno schifo.
ma quando dovrebbe uscire ?
ciao A.

Carlo
Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
2007-04-04 14:11:11 UTC
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Post by Carlo
Post by Silver Drake
http://www.mendolaart.com/webout/63/2373-main.jpg
Non male, a parte il fatto che le formiche mi fanno schifo.
La copertina è interesante...anche le formiche. :-)
Vuoi vedere che imbroccano un disco di _canzoni_, magari perfino quasi
ascoltabile?

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Io.
Crevice
2007-04-04 17:37:43 UTC
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Vuoi vedere che imbroccano un disco di _canzoni_, magari perfino quasi
ascoltabile?

cosa che tra l'altro han sempre fatto nè! ^_^
La copertina mi fa davvero cagare, la cosa butta bene, ma una data di
riferimento non esiste?

Crevice


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Io.
Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
2007-04-05 07:28:13 UTC
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On 4 Apr, 19:37, "Crevice"
Post by Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
Vuoi vedere che imbroccano un disco di _canzoni_, magari perfino quasi
ascoltabile?
cosa che tra l'altro han sempre fatto nè! ^_^
Eh, come no.
Basta vedere Shit from a Vomitory, Merdavarium, Train of Shit, Shit
Increases Inner Flautulence, insomma, tutta la loro produzione degli
ultimi dieci anni. Non sono canzoni, sono note sparate a caso a
velocità warp con in mezzo qualche frasetta melodica.
Post by Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
La copertina mi fa davvero cagare,
Perchè?

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Io.
Crevice
2007-04-05 16:04:57 UTC
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"Colossale Pezzo di Idiota" <***@email.it> ha scritto nel messaggio news:***@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On 4 Apr, 19:37, "Crevice"
Post by Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
Vuoi vedere che imbroccano un disco di _canzoni_, magari perfino quasi
ascoltabile?
cosa che tra l'altro han sempre fatto nè! ^_^
Eh, come no.
Basta vedere Shit from a Vomitory, Merdavarium, Train of Shit, Shit
Increases Inner Flautulence, insomma, tutta la loro produzione degli
ultimi dieci anni. Non sono canzoni, sono note sparate a caso a
velocità warp con in mezzo qualche frasetta melodica.

la tua crociata è degna di rispetto, sei rimasto solo ma continui a
combattere, onore a te ^_^!!!!
Post by Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
La copertina mi fa davvero cagare,
Perchè?

Boh, non mi dice una fava, mi pare una stronzata, quindi butta bene.

Crevice

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Io.
Ray Alder IL BUFFO
2007-04-05 20:04:23 UTC
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Post by Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
Shit
Increases Inner Flautulence
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Mi hai fatto cappottare dalla sedia....


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Mordred
2007-04-05 21:01:53 UTC
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Shit Increases Inner Flautulence
ROTFL!!!!

Mordred
Ray Alder IL BUFFO
2007-04-04 20:17:16 UTC
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Post by Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
Vuoi vedere che imbroccano un disco di _canzoni_, magari perfino quasi
ascoltabile?
Un tuo commento sui Dream Theater che non contiene:

Porknoi
Petruzzi
Il Formaggia
Merd Theater
Crappotronic


???

Bene bene, potrebbe essere la volta buona... :P


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Ray Alder IL BUFFO
unknown
2007-04-05 18:31:20 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
http://www.mendolaart.com/webout/63/2373-main.jpg
Non male, a parte il fatto che le formiche mi fanno schifo.
la formica in primo piano è oscena
Silver Drake
2007-04-05 18:37:27 UTC
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Post by unknown
la formica in primo piano è oscena
Sai com'è, Dance of Death ha stabilito nuovi standard per le copertine...

See you,
Silver Drake
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RADIO HELL - HELL FORCE ONE
http://www.myspace.com/rh666
http://www.radiohell.it
ANY METAL? EVERY METAL!
unknown
2007-04-05 18:38:46 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
Post by unknown
la formica in primo piano è oscena
Sai com'è, Dance of Death ha stabilito nuovi standard per le copertine...
vero, la diffusione dei PC è una maledizione in questo senso
Silver Drake
2007-04-05 18:48:49 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Silver Drake
Post by unknown
la formica in primo piano è oscena
Sai com'è, Dance of Death ha stabilito nuovi standard per le copertine...
vero, la diffusione dei PC è una maledizione in questo senso
Che poi non sono nemmeno i casi peggiori, ma solo i peggiori tra i gruppi
di alto livello, e si tratta in entrambi i casi di idee non brutte alla
base ma realizzate male (o malissimo nel caso degli Iron, tra l'altro per
colpa della band, stranamente).
La tragedia è quando guardi i gruppi minori e vedi stuoli di porcherie
fatte di corsa buttando assieme roba con un CAD, più stuoli di porcherie
fatte con calma buttando assieme roba col CAD. E mi mette molta tristezza
pensare che uno degli esempi è un mio mito del passato come Derek Riggs.

See you,
Silver Drake
--
RADIO HELL - HELL FORCE ONE
http://www.myspace.com/rh666
http://www.radiohell.it
ANY METAL? EVERY METAL!
Carlo
2007-04-05 18:49:46 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
Sai com'è, Dance of Death ha stabilito nuovi standard per le copertine...
Brrr, su questo hai ragione. Però, a parte la tecnica uttilizzata,
nella copertina ci stanno bene.
A me i colori della copertina fanno venire in mente quella di Animals
dei Pink Floyd.


Carlo
Silver Drake
2007-04-06 13:20:25 UTC
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Post by Carlo
Brrr, su questo hai ragione. Però, a parte la tecnica uttilizzata,
nella copertina ci stanno bene.
Sì, in generale non la trovo una brutta copertina.

See you,
Silver Drake
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RADIO HELL - HELL FORCE ONE
http://www.myspace.com/rh666
Any metal? Every metal!
Ray Alder IL BUFFO
2007-04-05 20:05:49 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
Sai com'è, Dance of Death ha stabilito nuovi standard per le copertine...
Quoto. :-)


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Pikkio
2007-04-06 11:23:00 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
Post by unknown
la formica in primo piano è oscena
Sai com'è, Dance of Death ha stabilito nuovi standard per le
copertine...
Speriamo che non valga per i Dream Theater l'equazione che c'è stata
nell'ultimo disco dei Maiden.

copertinadimerda=discodimerda

Pikkio
Silver Drake
2007-04-06 11:25:29 UTC
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Post by Pikkio
Speriamo che non valga per i Dream Theater l'equazione che c'è stata
nell'ultimo disco dei Maiden.
Speriamo che valga invece, la copertina di AMoLaD è la migliore da parecchi
anni questa parte (e anche il disco è molto molto bello) :P

See you,
Silver Drake
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RADIO HELL - HELL FORCE ONE
http://www.myspace.com/rh666
Any metal? Every metal!
Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
2007-04-06 12:48:17 UTC
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Post by Pikkio
Post by Silver Drake
Post by unknown
la formica in primo piano è oscena
Sai com'è, Dance of Death ha stabilito nuovi standard per le copertine...
Speriamo che non valga per i Dream Theater l'equazione che c'è stata
nell'ultimo disco dei Maiden.
copertinadimerda=discodimerda
Dance of Death aveva una copertina orènda fatta all'ultimo secondo, ma
era un gran disco.
Questo dei drim tiater, invece, ha una bella copertina, la migliore da
10 anni a questa parte.

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Io.
Gackeen
2007-04-06 12:50:14 UTC
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Post by Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
Questo dei drim tiater, invece, ha una bella copertina, la migliore da
10 anni a questa parte.
TOT era un brutto disco ma la copertina era bella
Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
2007-04-06 13:15:14 UTC
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Post by Gackeen
Post by Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
Questo dei drim tiater, invece, ha una bella copertina, la migliore da
10 anni a questa parte.
TOT era un brutto disco ma la copertina era bella
Disco insignificante, copertina insignificante, acromatica e stupida.
Un fondo nero e un occhio disegnato sopra. Sai che roba.

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Io.
Gackeen
2007-04-06 13:27:13 UTC
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Post by Colossale Pezzo di Idiota
Un fondo nero e un occhio disegnato sopra. Sai che roba.
se ti fermi solo all'occhio allora hai ragione tu
Ray Alder IL BUFFO
2007-04-06 19:40:01 UTC
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Dance of Death []
era un gran disco.
E' una battuta?



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Ray Alder IL BUFFO
2007-04-04 20:13:56 UTC
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Post by Niccolo' Carli
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One of the companies I work closely with is re-issue label Rock Candy
Records. The label is run by the legendary journalist and A&R duo of
Derek Oliver & Dante Bonutto, who are also now working in conjunction
with Roadrunner Records to bring new releases from classic bands to
the market place.
Their first signing is Dream Theater, as announced a month or so ago.
Of course the guys are very familiar with the band, having signed them
to Elektra all those years ago.
Dream Theater have just turned in their new album Systematic Chaos to
their label, and Derek Oliver was kind enough to forward me his
thoughts on the album after living with it for a while and gave me the
ok to run this as your exclusive first look into the album from
someone who has a long and lasting passion for the band.
"Systematic Chaos is pretty full-on. You'll all be very surprised.
It's undoubtedly the best record that they've recorded in many years -
very accessible, very heavy and very melodic. They've managed to
combine a sense of the past with the future and, unlike Rush, haven't
dumped their glorious past in favour of annoying skinny tie
affectations or garage rock pretence.
There are two absolutely killer tracks,
Constant Motion and The Dark Eternal Night, the former is like
Metallica with keyboards and the latter showcases the most intense and
heavy musicianship that they've ever recorded - think Pantera jamming
with Iron Maiden. Those tracks will be regarded as master classes in
progressive metal for years to come. And they both boast lashings of
melody.
The most accessible track is titled Forsaken, a blindingly obvious
radio song that mixes contemporary modern rock ala Evanescence with
the old school power balladry of Queensryche's Silent Lucidity whilst
still packing a progressive rock punch. Do I smell a potential radio
smash? Quite possibly.
Surprise contenders for classic status include Repentance, a brooding
10 minute creepy crawler that seeps its way into one's inner psyche
from the first few seconds of playback. The impact of this track is
enhanced by an abundance of unexpected spoken word contributions from
a number of well known musicians. I won't spoil it by revealing
exactly who they are as its a lot of fun trying to decipher for
yourself. Musically think Pink Floyd duetting with Metallica on a
decidedly trippy space rock epic.
The other major surprise is Prophet's Of War a magnetic and compelling
six minute romp that appears to be a combination of electro pop and
classic arena metal and it works brilliantly. Imagine walking into a
Berlin discotechque at 2 in the morning with 2,000 nutters jumping up
and down to a wild electro mash-up of the Prodigy, Queen, Robbie
Williams, Metallica and Ramstein whilst Dita Von Teese dances in a
cage.
Trad DT faire is offered up with The Ministry Of Lost Souls. Initially
a piano driven ballad which builds into a colossal prog rock hoedown
allowing Jordan Rudess to utilise every keyboard that he's acquired
through the ages amongst a cacophony of wild jamming. Once the battle
has been won, its all back to the main theme for a piping hot cup of
cocoa and bed.
The 25 minute epic In The Presence Of Enemies is indeed a pleasure to
experience. Split into two parts, which bookend the album, the vibe
here is dark and distant. The song is driven by a particularly
impressive bass riff and a full, open chorus with evil lyrics
delivered convincingly by a more assured and focussed James LaBrie.
Then, in the blink of an eye, it all kicks off as Portnoy jumps in
with double kick drums thumping at an alarming speed and its heads
down for the final push with swords, guitars, knives and keyboards re-
enacting the Charge Of The Light Brigade.
Man of the match? Impossible to say as all of them are at the top of
their game on this one. Portnoy? Well, he's just being Portnoy -
crucially the most accomplished drummer of modern times.
Petrucci? He's off his head on virtually every track delivering the
heaviest riffs this side of Black Sabbath and the fastest most precise
plank spanking I've ever heard.
Myung? The guys doesn't have much to say for himself in interviews but
his playing on this record speaks a thousand words.
Rudess? Possibly the bastard child of Keith Emerson and Rachmaninov.
His playing is historic and, understandably, quite perplexing.
LaBrie? I have great pleasure in announcing that he, out of them all,
has risen most magnificently to the challenge. Its clear that he's
taking this particular moment in the bands career to up his game
considerably, approaching each track with an intelligence that belies
his previous output. By adapting his delivery to suit the mood of each
song this fine fellow has breathed new life into an old frame. A great
and significant accomplishment.
I came away from this album thinking that - and I'm not taking a pot
shot here - if Iron Maiden and Metallica were currently writing and
performing to this level of excellence then the world of rock would
indeed be a far better place."
====================================================
Mi sto toccando...


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Silver Drake
2007-04-04 23:48:58 UTC
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Post by Ray Alder IL BUFFO
Mi sto toccando...
Va bene che ti piacciono, ma non esagerare, sono fatti tuoi quelle cose lì :P

See you,
Silver Drake
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RADIO HELL - HELL FORCE ONE
http://www.myspace.com/rh666
http://www.radiohell.it
ANY METAL? EVERY METAL!
Ray Alder IL BUFFO
2007-04-05 01:01:42 UTC
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Post by Silver Drake
Va bene che ti piacciono, ma non esagerare, sono fatti tuoi quelle cose lì :P
Malizioso! ...era nel senso SCARAMANTICO!!! ;-P


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I_AM_I
2007-04-05 07:36:33 UTC
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Post by Ray Alder IL BUFFO
Malizioso! ...era nel senso SCARAMANTICO!!! ;-P
Beh, che io sappia, i Dream Theater non portano sfiga.

Gianluca
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è di non essere qualcun altro."
W.Allen
Pierluigi Fumi
2007-04-05 07:52:15 UTC
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Post by I_AM_I
Beh, che io sappia, i Dream Theater non portano sfiga.
i loro ventilatori si`, pero`!
Mordred
2007-04-05 13:43:28 UTC
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Post by I_AM_I
Beh, che io sappia, i Dream Theater non portano sfiga.
Ci manca pure questa!

Mordred
Masque
2007-04-05 18:55:35 UTC
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Post by I_AM_I
Beh, che io sappia, i Dream Theater non portano sfiga.
infatti. quelli erano i death ss :-)
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Ray Alder IL BUFFO
2007-04-05 20:05:03 UTC
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Post by I_AM_I
Beh, che io sappia, i Dream Theater non portano sfiga.
Nel senso: SPERIAMO CHE LE PREMESSE SIANO MANTENUTE.


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